Communication........Censorship
Forums.........Clubs
Gossip.....Information
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What's useful and what isn't? Whose to say. If not for some soap operas, a touch of chaos and common chatter not much information would be passed around or little items known like WD mentioned. Some enjoy information in all forms some don't. All forums, discussion is the same, there are always those who wish to stifle communication and topics. What's not allowed on one board can always be discussed on another. I thought VNN was more open to freedom of speech.

Everyone wants to rule the world.

Glad you are here.

I thought VNN was more open to freedom of speech, at least that is what they say.

Actually, my post was very deep and heart felt over the future for White children. I want a future for white children. I want the children today, in 21 years when they become adults to have a good future and not a bleak and dark one.

WE ARE FAILING in this fight. It is a WAR and we are LOSING. We say we are fighting to secure a future for White children, but to many it seems like they are just words and not something they truly believe or fighting for.

No one wants to talk about why we are failing or look into the reasons we are FAILING and try to look at maybe trying something new to see if that works.

I am talking about so much more than SF, but some of you can't see it. I am talking about WHITE CHILDREN AND THEIR FUTURE. I am a woman. I want our White children to have a bright and wonderful future. The way things are going now, they will have a dark and very bleak future.

It seems that some people don't understand that, and are not willing to talk about the issues of what changes we can make in order to start winning this WAR. They would rather stay the course as GB does in Iraq instead of taking a serious look at WAYS WE CAN ACTUALLY WIN THIS WAR FOR OUR VERY SURVIVAL AND A FUTURE FOR WHITE CHILDREN.

I am talking ABOUT SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST SF. I am talking about patterns of behavior in the Whole CAUSE.

2007 is a year that we are in a crossroads. What we do this year will determined if we win or loose. I truly believe it.

We are fighting a two front war now. Yes, the Jew is our enemy. But also the Muslim world has said they want to KILL the ANGLO/SAXON race, which I am part of . WE have two enemies of our race that want to destroy us from the face of the earth. (the jew and the muslim)

Hitler was not able to win his two front war. WE are no where near as good as the Germans were when they were fighting their two front war.

NO, instead of seriously looking at how we are going to fight this WAR to win, and put aside a little pride and hurt feelings to unite as ONE Fighting force like the GERMANS did; we want to FIGHT and devour each other.

This is a serious discussion here and not just drama and a soap oprea.

IF you do NOT want to allow serious discussion here, that is fine, I have lots of other ways that I am working to WIN THIS WAR SO THAT WHITE CHILDREN WILL HAVE A FUTURE THAT IS BRIGHT AND GOOD AND NOT BE KILLED BY EITHER OF THE ENEMY THAT WANTS TO DESTROY THEIR RACE OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

Yes, I am yelling because this is very serious and I feel like some of the idiots in this cause would rather STAY THE COURSE INSTEAD OF FINDING A COURSE THAT WILL WORK TO WIN THE WAR.

You younguns can criticize Stormfront posters all you like, and in many cases you are right, it is a social club. But I did my share 30 years ago. I caused a schwarz wilder pimp and his white sluts to leave my neighborhood. I caused fat ugly schwarz wilder welfare parasite to leave my neighborhood. I drove a bunch of white trash drug dealers out of the house next door to me. I used the means necessary to keep my neighborhood a decent place for my children to grow. I didn't belong to any groups, and I barely knew what a jew was. If I had been seen doing the things that I did by any fellow whites, no doubt they would have reported me to the police. I would have done serious time if caught.

I did mine, and I did it on my own. There was lifelong republican two houses down with a short wave radio, and his nose up the ass of any authority figure he could get next to, who would have just let the neighborhood go as long as he had uniformed colons to snoozzle. I did my job and took my risks thirty years ago, and if I want to post in a "social club" website, I'm damn well entitled to do so without crap from younguns.

I'm still taking breath, so I'm still always into something. Right now, I'm preparing my grandchildren to survive in the increasingly changing and unpredictable world, and I work at routinely pissing off a lot of brainwashed liberals, "let's pretend" conservatives, and status quo authority.

You boys be certain that you are hitting the right targets with your criticisms.

Glad you are here.

I thought VNN was more open to freedom of speech, at least that is what they say.

Actually, my post was very deep and heart felt over the future for White children. I want a future for white children. I want the children today, in 21 years when they become adults to have a good future and not a bleak and dark one.

WE ARE FAILING in this fight. It is a WAR and we are LOSING. We say we are fighting to secure a future for White children, but to many it seems like they are just words and not something they truly believe or fighting for.

No one wants to talk about why we are failing or look into the reasons we are FAILING and try to look at maybe trying something new to see if that works.

I am talking about so much more than SF, but some of you can't see it. I am talking about WHITE CHILDREN AND THEIR FUTURE. I am a woman. I want our White children to have a bright and wonderful future. The way things are going now, they will have a dark and very bleak future.

It seems that some people don't understand that, and are not willing to talk about the issues of what changes we can make in order to start winning this WAR. They would rather stay the course as GB does in Iraq instead of taking a serious look at WAYS WE CAN ACTUALLY WIN THIS WAR FOR OUR VERY SURVIVAL AND A FUTURE FOR WHITE CHILDREN.

I am talking ABOUT SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST SF. I am talking about patterns of behavior in the Whole CAUSE.

2007 is a year that we are in a crossroads. What we do this year will determined if we win or loose. I truly believe it.

We are fighting a two front war now. Yes, the Jew is our enemy. But also the Muslim world has said they want to KILL the ANGLO/SAXON race, which I am part of . WE have two enemies of our race that want to destroy us from the face of the earth. (the jew and the muslim)

The Muslim World does not want to kill the "Anglo-Saxon" race, they don't even know what that is. Where are you getting this from? Al Qaeda? That's only one organization, not all Muslims.

I have been on Stormfront since 2002.

The best quality I found being on SF is that I have met many good comrades off line and in real life.

n UK politics WNs are a sitting duck. It was declared after Griffin walked free that the loop holes in the race hate law would be buttoned up. All he did was call Islam a vile religion which indeed it is, so you can imaging the UKs plight at the moment. This doesnt mean others have given up though, it just means they have to change tactics. Its all game playing as you have pointed out. The most convincing liar wins from what I can see because the truth doesnt seem to get anyone anywhere. What one does and says on the way to the top need not be what one says and does once they are there.

This is precisely the problem with so-called White Nationalists in Europe. No, not the laws, but your attitude. In every revolution in history the message of the revolution was forbidden, and its messengers persecuted, imprisoned, beaten, tortured or killed. Forget about bans. Forget about legislation. Nothing must alter the message or prevent its articulation. When men start paying dearly for their words and deeds, yet ever more men appear to take their place and no act of government can stop their articulation of the message, then the movement gains an appearance of moral justification. Then its success becomes tenable.

White Nationalists are always defending, always apologizing, always treading carefully, always watering down their ideology, always calling a spade a device for digging holes. Our race, culture and civilisation lie dying. Get it through your heads: there is nothing left to defend, and little left to save. The time has come to attack, and attack vociferously and unrelentingly. Have we men of the West been so feminized that even those who wish to save it from its darkest hour cannot muster the courage to do so?

Oh, but I'm getting ahead of myself. You types don't even want revolution. You just want to freeze the river. Democracy and Britain, from now until all eternity! You're really no different to the leftists in your capacity for rational thought; you just have different presuppositions.

I could show you my uncirmcumsized dick, but why bother? You are an anti troll. You'll be banned shortly. Watch and see.
Muad Dib's primer on the jews
http://www.nationalistpartyusa.org/Primer.htm
Come and Hear about jews
http://www.comeandhear.com/navigate.html

Lots of US men have cirmcumsized dicks and are not Jews, more to being a Jew than what condition your dicks in.

Has DD been released form parole/probation? Ther could be a clause in his parole. Do not know. What I do know is DB made damn sure he spoke out against some rally by Hal Turner and Yankee Jim.
PAT88
definite article
jew joy tree
rocky mountain marine
bedford
ace lannigan
alphanumericus
bean counter
mikhaelis
charles coughlin, but not father charles coughlin

Add to list of possible chosenites:

Leshrac
AlanC
Leondegrance
ElectricSun

p.s. I don't think PAT88 or Godiva are jews.

Add to list of possible chosenites:

Leshrac
AlanC
Leondegrance
ElectricSun

p.s. I don't think PAT88 or Godiva are jews.

You could be right about PAT88. But he is a know it all braggart and he was caught lying by more than a dozen members.

I don't see that SF does a damn bit of good when not one mod...can name the...jew. Revisionism my ass. Arguing about the holohoax will not get anyone arrested

I'm a moderator at Stormfront.
I name the Jew.
And stormfront members have been arrested for naming the jew.
Ernst Zundel was detained for holocaust denial. He was jailed indefinitely without charges laid against him because of our terrorist bill which states the government can jail people for association.

Glenn Bahr also had his house raided because on his website he linked the book Turner diaries, International Jew, and White Power. justice Julie LLoyd of The Human rights Tribunal said "While Mr. Bahr did not author the material found on the Downloads section of the website, I have found that he caused this material to be communicated...the materials communicated expressed hatred and contempt to jews...I order Mr. Bahr to pay a penalty in the amount of $5,000.00"

The more you know.

Add to list of possible chosenites:

Leshrac
AlanC
Leondegrance
ElectricSun

p.s. I don't think PAT88 or Godiva are jews.

Godiva is a friend of mine. She is NOT a jew. Pat88 is not either. Even though I am named at SF as somehow naming Pat88 as a jew, I haven't even said anything about him up till now.

I'm a moderator at Stormfront.
I name the Jew.
And stormfront members have been arrested for naming the jew.
Ernst Zundel was detained for holocaust denial. He was jailed indefinitely without charges laid against him because of our terrorist bill which states the government can jail people for association.

Glenn Bahr also had his house raided because on his website he linked the book Turner diaries, International Jew, and White Power. justice Julie LLoyd of The Human rights Tribunal said "While Mr. Bahr did not author the material found on the Downloads section of the website, I have found that he caused this material to be communicated...the materials communicated expressed hatred and contempt to jews...I order Mr. Bahr to pay a penalty in the amount of $5,000.00"

The more you know.

It is very possible that you and I know each other in real life and even consider each other friends. I am sure you all guessed by now, that I am camie so I hope I can be honest with you and you can respect my being honest.

You are a name the jew mod. That is great. There are many people on SF that name the jew. I wouldn't deny that. There are many brave people who are members of SF who have paid the price for naming the jews. I can respect that, but I can not accept a board that supports or has fellowship with groups who accept jews in their membership anymore.

I am reading the History of the English Speaking people. In the UK section on this board I posted it. I have posted it on other boards. I know my stand will not be popular and I may loose friends over it, but I must do what I believe in my heart is needed in order to win a victory. We are fighting a WAR, it is not a game as some WN like to play. This is real. WE are LOOSING this war.

On another board I started a thread of are we winning the war? Name me what state or avenue in the states where we hold any positions of power where we can change anything. No one yet has named one. The past does not count. David Duke doesn't still hold his seat so it doesn't count, the same as I am no longer Republcian party committee precint woman of my district in KS. As both of us held that power in the past, neither one of our accomplishments count for current seats and avenues of power.

John Tyndale said that we must never sugar coat our message, but at the same time unless we work to achieve power all our work is in vain.

Anyway, from now on, I will be following in the footsteps of my English speaking ancestors and will shun those groups or boards who support or have fellowship with jews and non whites who are our enemies. Yes, there are good people on SF, and I would say you are one of the good guys, but SF as a board supports and encourages people to support groups like AR and BNP who accept jews in their membership. SF members went to the last AR conference and support AR. They support the BNP and both groups do not view the jew as our enemy and work along side of the jew, and both groups have said very nasty comments about David Duke who does know the jew is our enemy and works, write, and talks about the jews so that our people will wake up to the jew. I guess I feel loyality to David Duke as well, and would never support groups with jewish memberships who say nasty things about him, because he dares to tell the truth about our enemy the jew. That same loyality I have for Wayne, I guess I have for David Duke.

I hope you will read my history of the English speaking people thread, it will explain in much more detail, my reason of deciding last night, that I will from now on shuning groups and boards who will not withdraw their support from groups who accept jews as members in their groups.

Everyone must decide what they are going to do. I will still have fellowship with the name the jew people who post there, but at the same time, I will be speaking out and encouraging them to follow in the footsteps of our ancestors and not tolerate behavior within our own people of having our own people support, aid, or have any fellowship with the enemy of our race. How will our people know it is wrong to support the jew, when we continue to overlook it? If one truly believes something in their heart, than they must make the tough choice and don't be a hyprocrit and say the jew is the enemy, but at the same time support groups who have jews as members. Sf does that. You can't deny that,so for that reason, I will be shunning SF. I will not be shunning you, or any other name the jew person, but I will be shunning SF as a board.

I will continue to be writing on the History of the English Speaking people. I think it is important for White people to know the history of their tribe. Those of us who are members of that tribe, need to learn from our ancestors and apply some of their lessons to the Cause today.

My reasons for shunning SF are much more than just the way Wayne and Norsestar were treated, though I was very angry. I am a very loyal person. Wayne is a dear friend and has been for years. HE has been true blue to me, and so yes, I did get angry and yes, I did say somethings to try and hurt SF as SF had hurt my friend. I was angry that I felt we had to take sides over our dear friend and SF. The main reason that I am shunning SF is because of their support for groups like AR and BNP who accept jews in membership when the jew is the number one enemy of our race.

Which side is SF on? I hate to ask it, but is it on the side who names the jews and fights the jews; or is it on the side of those groups it supports such as the AR and the BNP who accept jews into membership and attack real men like David Duke who does speak out, name the jew, and is trying to wake up our people to the truth? If SF is a true WN site, than why are they still supporting groups that accept jews like AR and BNP who attack David Duke? I just feel that I see lack of real leadership or example in standing up for the truth, and for the sake of a dream of unity overlook jews gaining power and membership in our Cause for the sake of this so called fake unity close their eyes to the reality of the power the jews are gaining within our ranks.

I have always believed that leaders lead by example. I have always tried to lead that way. That is why, I am doing what I am doing. I hope SF will realize that right now, they are trying to play it on both sides. They are trying to name the jew, but at the same time, they suppport groups who accept jews as membership. You can't do it that way, as it sends a mixed message to our people. People need to pick a side, commit to that side, and be honest about it.

I don't hate SF as I loved the old SF when they were not as poltically correct. I just see SF as lukewarm. It is neigher hot nor cold. Have you ever tasted food that is lukewarm? You want to spit it out. They are not hot because SF has many people like you who do know the truth about the jews, but at the same time they have people, support groups and encourage support of those groups who accept jews as members. By sending a mixed message they are not hot(totally WN). They are not cold either, because SF is not an enemy of our people. They do have people who do know the truth within their ranks. I have met Don Black and I think he is a fine person, though he may not think I like him or respect him as a person. I am just honest and say things as see them. I also have passion and I am tired of the status quo and year after year never getting any closer to winning any real power that will actually change things. SF is not the enemy, so they are not cold either. SF has lost its fire.

I used to work and have horses. When you shoe horses, you have to heat up the medal to very hot temptures to bend it in the shape and size you want for the shoe. I see SF has lost that spark, passion, heat and because of it now being lukewarm I am not sure that SF is hot enough to really reach our people with the truth, to encourage them to make the tough choices in the days ahead that we are going to have to make if we are going to win this war.

If you would like to pm me, we can take this in private.

I love my race. I want to win. If making hard choices and having to shun people because the group they belongs to supports and accepts jews into membership than that is a hard choice I will make. We can't have it both ways. Do we want to win or do we want to stay the course and loose.

George Bush always said, we need to stay the course in Iraq. He refuses to admit that the course they are on is failing and look at maybe trying another course to see if it works better. Appeasing and acceptance of the jews into WN groups has not worked. We are weaker and we are loosing.

I just want us as WN to take an honest look at how we are fighting this WAR and in what ways we can be more effective. What goals do we have and how best to achive power to actually make the changes needed so that our race has a future. These are very serious questions and if we take the time to answer them, I think we will be stronger and better able to know the right course to take.

As I said, you might even have my phone number, if if you want to talk to me I will be glad to talk to anyone. If you don't have it , you can get it very easily.

I am glad SF is back up. SF is still a tool and the biggest WN site there is. I don't wish SF any ill will, but me personally can not be part of a group or board who accepts or supports groups such as AR and the BNP who accept jews as membership.

I hope you have a very merry Christmas

Camie Cosser

Ps,

I understand VNN supports the BNP, who does accept jews in their membership. If that is the case than I may be shunning this board as well for being a board that supports and has fellowship with groups who accept jews(the enemy of our race) into membership.

Nice post Camie...:cheers:

Time for me to spread some rep points....

I understand VNN supports the BNP, who does accept jews in their membership. If that is the case than I may be shunning this board as well for being a board that supports and has fellowship with groups who accept jews(the enemy of our race) into membership.

VNN = "No Jews. Just Right." We do NOT support the BNP.

VNN = "No Jews. Just Right." We do NOT support the BNP.

Thank you for making your stand clear. It is very nice to know this.

With the removal of the former moderator, the forum may well revert to being a place where all nationalists are given a platform.